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I feel bad for him in a way because he told me he's sorry about it. He did tell me

something. He was sorry about it. But no one that they argued and no one that some of the stuff that went on

I'm like, I know she wasn't her kind, I know she had faults, but nobody deserves this.

If Janice brings up Kelly to the kids, then he cuts them off from the kids and the only way that she's able to see him is supervised visits.

And he says the reason is because she's talking about Kelly and he don't want her talking about Kelly to the kids.

I found that kind of odd because the kids were home and he kind of keeps them from talking about her.

He sent the kids home with his parents who they barely knew and left them in New York for months while he went back to Japan.

Now I don't know if it's accurate, but I'm told that there's footage, pictures and so forth witnesses of him having big parties and enjoying himself during that time frame.

Well, my niece is traumatized because she woke up and her mommy was gone. So the last thing I would think he would do is leave her in New York.

On the evening of October 26, 2011, 27 year old Kelly cribs a bod, talked her children into bed.

Her husband was at church meeting with their pastor and according to him when he returned home, he couldn't find any trace of Kelly and her car was gone.

In the nearly eight years that have passed since that night, Kelly has never been seen or heard from again.

I'm Marissa and from Wondery, this is episode 196 of The Vanished. Kelly cribs a bod's story.

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