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Keith, I think of all the podcast guests I've had I didn't know I've dicked one around

quite so much as I've messed you around. Your people have been trying to arrange this

for ages and I've been so useless and you're like a big CEO of a guy I know CEOs aren't

used to this kind of stuff so can I apologise? No worries.

So when do we last do a podcast together? It was about two years ago isn't it? Maybe

before the questions. Yeah and before we talk about monetary metals just just remind people

who don't know about your history tell us a bit about yourself. So I was your class of

computer nerd in high school went off to major in computer science dropped out like

so many did because I wanted to go build a software company like many of my heroes before

me build a software company sold it to nortel networks we were the last acquisition nortel

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