If you have your own story of being in a cult or a high control group or if you've had

experience with manipulation or abuse the power that you'd like to share, leave us a message

on our hotline number at 347-86 Trust. That's 347-868-7878. Or shoot us an e-mail at TrustMePod

at gmail.com. Trust me. Do you trust me? Trust me. I'm like a smart person. Yeah, I've never

lied to you. I never have lied. If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief, and manipulation from two

mortals who've actually experienced it. I'm Lola Blanc, mere mortal. And I'm Megan Elizabeth

Imwardal. Oh, wow! Yeah. Today our guest is Keith Page, funeral celebrant,

hospice chaplain, and death doula, or death midwife. Here to talk to us about all things death.

He's gonna tell us about how he started out as a pastor of a large church where elements of

that experience made him uncomfortable and how he actually fell from grace and then began a

journey of healing and repair only to find that religion still wasn't as welcoming as he might

have hoped. We'll discuss how he eventually turned away from religion and found his calling

and helping people deal with death from a secular perspective, how you can define your values

for yourself without religion and what his end of life work actually entails, including,

yeah, the thing with the dry ice. Plus, why it's important to normalize death and

find community in our collective flailing around in the dark. And guys, if you death is not your

fave topic, you can go ahead and skip this one. It's very death heavy. Also, I should mention

real quick, we do have merch. Yeah, y'all, we have merch. We keep forgetting to talk about it,

but it's really freaking cute. Our boyfriends have our shirts, our producer has our shirts, our

friends have our shirts, and you can too. And the link to buy it is bit.ly slash trust me

merch. Can I just say our shirts are exceptionally good. Like they're a little bit punk.

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