Keir and Loathing – Are Labour misreading the Locals results?

Oh God, What Now?

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🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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As Labour panic and freak out over Runcorn and the Locals, is Starmer drawing the wrong conclusions from the votes? Is “Reform are right, don’t vote for them” the best they can do? Or should they pick more fights with the Right? Plus, what if this newfangled populism isn’t so new after all? We talk to Quinn Slobodian, author of Hayek’s Bastards: The Neoliberal Roots of the Populist Right, about why the shape-shifting Right are so hard to lay a glove on. And in the Extra Bit: Does VE Day hit differently now Europe is full of fascists, enthusiastically supported by the US President? ESCAPE ROUTES • Ros recommends Les Années (The Years) by Annie Earnaux. • Matt recommends With Nails by Richard E. Grant. • Dorian recommends Thunderbolts, in cinemas now. • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more. Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey with Ros Taylor and Matt Green. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Theme music by Cornershop. Produced by Chris Jones. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Advertising helps fund our podcasts, but we know some of our listeners would prefer the shows without adverts.
0:05.2	If that sounds like you, why not support us on Patreon? You'll get all our episodes without interruptions,
0:10.5	and you'll be helping independent podcasting to thrive. Follow the link in the show notes to find out more. Welcome to Oh God What Now. I'm Dorian Linsky.
0:28.6	On today's show, has Labour misread the local election results and the mood of the country?
0:33.0	Or is this what Morgan McSweeney wanted all along?
0:36.1	Then we talk to author Quin Slobodyan about the
0:38.2	contradictions of the new right and what populism owes to neoliberalism. And in the extra bit
0:43.0	for supporters, how have our feelings about VE Day changed on its 80th anniversary? Let's meet the
0:49.0	panel. First, author, journalist and creator of Jam Tomorrow, Ros Taylor. Hi, Ros. Hello.
0:53.7	And new series out now. Yeah, more Jam Tomorrow. By the way, you need to look for more Jam Tomorrow,
0:58.7	not just follow the old Jam Tomorrow link that won't have any new episodes on it.
1:02.1	It's about curry houses, and we have friend of the podcast, Anand Menon, on talking about his favorite covers.
1:10.6	Excellent.
1:11.3	The Green Party spotlight-loving deputy leader, Zach Polanski, has launched his leadership bid.
1:17.4	Or I suppose in the Greens, you launch half a leadership bid?
1:20.7	No, they can have a single leader, but then they have to have two deputies.
1:23.9	That's how it works.
1:24.7	Oh, okay.
1:25.4	Yeah.
1:26.2	Very sensible.
1:27.5	Is this a good idea?
1:28.9	Is this good for the Greens and good for Zach Polanski?
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