From Open Britain to the Island of Strangers

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Keir Starmer’s statement on immigration may well have repelled many Labour voters towards the Lib Dems and the Greens. How wrong has the Prime Minister got this strategy to defeat Reform? And are his party’s plans even workable? Plus, the UK has signed trade deals with the US and India – what’s in them, how important are they, and are we getting too close to Trump? Trade expert Dmitry Grozoubinski spoke to Andrew Harrison for The Bunker and we’ve included a brief excerpt in this section. • Want more? Find the full Bunker episode with Dmitry here. www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Ros Taylor with Seth Thévoz, Rachel Cunliffe and Ahir Shah. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio. Production by Robin Leeburn. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:19.3	Welcome to Oh God What Now, I'm Russ Taylor. On today's show, if you thought Stama was done with holding the Labour Party upside and shaking it, you were wrong. We look at his tough new immigration stance and what it means. Plus, Britain's done trade deals with India and the US in quick succession. What's the beef? And does this mean
0:38.3	globalisation isn't dead after all? Let's meet the panel. First up, it's author and historian
0:44.6	Seth Tevles. Hi, Seth. Hello, hello. Now, you've got a new book out this week, I believe.
0:49.2	I do. I never shut up about it. London Clubland, the companion for for the Curious. As you know, I've written a
0:55.7	couple of history books in the past on this whole hidden world of private members clubs. And the
0:59.2	number one question I keep getting is, yeah, but tell us about them today. So that's exactly
1:04.2	what I've done. People are often slightly baffled that I do investigative journalism as well as
1:09.1	writing about clubs. And I think the sort of thread
1:10.8	that holds that together is that I hate the idea of hidden knowledge that's out of reach
1:16.4	from the rest of the world. So I've written something that's basically a combination between
1:20.0	a lonely planet guide and an ormanac to this rather odd world.
1:23.3	I'm looking forward to reading it. I'm still trying to work out which club, if any,
1:27.0	would suit me. And I suspect the answer is none, but I'm still trying to work out which club, if any, would suit me.
1:27.7	And I suspect the answer is none, but I will see. We might have to talk about immigration later.
1:34.2	How British are members' clubs?
1:36.3	Well, they're quintessentially British, by which I mean that they were entirely founded by immigrants.
1:40.7	If you look at the oldest club in London, White, it was founded by Mr. White, who was, of course, Mr. Bianco, an Italian gentleman who'd anglicised his name to sound more English.
1:50.0	They were entirely run in the early days by Greek coffee merchants, French chefs, Yugoslav servants.
1:56.1	And the idea itself is, of course, not a British idea. It was actually imported because London, of course,
2:01.2	was a port city. The earliest clubs were actually in North America in the 17th century as well as in
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