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Geopolitics & Empire

Kees van der Pijl: Israel Has Replaced EU in Atlantic Relationship, Historic Decline of West

Geopolitics & Empire

Geopolitics & Empire

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4.2 • 568 Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Dutch political economist Kees van der Pijl analyzes the volatile shifting of global power, focusing on the Middle East conflict involving Israel, Iran, and the U.S. He argues Israel has superseded the EU in the Atlantic relationship with the U.S., leading to a strategy where the U.S. increasingly fights wars to benefit Israeli interests. Van der Peel explores the possibility of false flag operations and the use of technological control systems to manage domestic populations through a state of permanent emergency. He also suggests hypersonic missile technology and drone warfare have fundamentally altered military superiority, potentially signaling the decline of Western imperial dominance. Furthermore, the discussion touches on the historical context of Israeli investments in global IT and intelligence sectors as a means of maintaining geopolitical leverage. Overarching themes include popular resistance in Europe and the emergence of a new multipolar world order led by BRICS.

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About Kees van der Pijl

Kees van der Pijl (1947) taught at the University of Amsterdam and was professor at the University of Sussex, UK, from 2000. He made his name with The Making of an Atlantic Ruling Class (1984, reprint 2012) and was awarded the 2008 Deutscher Prize for Nomads, Empires, State, Vol. I of a trilogy on Modes of Foreign Relations and Political Economy (2007-2014). He also wrote novels and edited a number of works, most recently STATES OF EMERGENCY: Keeping the Global Population in Check (2022) and The Militarization of the European Union (2021). His previous monograph, Flight MH17, Ukraine and the New Cold War (2018) has been translated into four other languages.

*Podcast intro music used with permission is from the song “The Queens Jig” by the fantastic “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

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0:00.0

Welcome to geopolitics and Empire support the podcast.

0:03.8

As always, leave a podcast review anywhere you're listening, particularly on the podcast players, Apple, Spotify, CastBox, Podbean.

0:12.5

I do try to leave a podcast review if you can.

0:15.6

That helps a lot.

0:17.4

Returning to the podcast has been quite a few years is dutch political economist kees van der peel

0:23.1

who's taught at the university of amsterdam and sessix he's the author of numerous books

0:28.5

years ago we discussed his absolutely must read book states of emergency keeping the global

0:35.5

population in check on what had been a popular podcast episode.

0:40.3

I even remember one of my other podcast guests, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, viewing that,

0:46.3

enjoying it and sharing it.

0:48.3

Welcome back, Keyes. How's life?

0:51.3

Yeah, yeah. Well, interesting times, you know, in the double Chinese meaning of being full of events,

1:02.9

but also fear inspiring.

1:06.6

You know, there are many things going on.

1:09.6

And in many places that are decision makers that we

1:14.0

must be very fearful of. I think Israel and the United States really are playing high stakes

1:22.6

and in the case of Israel that involves its very existence. And case of the United States it might involve a

1:31.3

complete collapse of its military status certainly in the Middle East. So yeah perhaps just to

1:39.0

expound on that and that's where I was going to start Iran, Israel, USA, Gaza. We have Netanyahu coming out recently and stating that what they are doing by clearing out Iran is becoming not just a regional power, but Israel is becoming a global power. And I can see it going both ways.

2:01.6

In many respects, US, Israel have been on a rampage winning in many respects.

2:09.6

Everything we see Venezuela, you know, Greenland to an extent in the Middle East.

2:23.1

But I can see them continuing to have success or, as you say, collapsing.

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