Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host

Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether

you're a grizzled veteran trying to sell off in bulk 10,000 CD

jewel cases that you bought back in the mid-90s, or else a scrappy upstart, having to Google the very

phrase jewel case, this is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad

excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the third Friday of November 2021, and I thank you for joining us.

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