emotional side, I had actually been living in a state of sympathetic dominance for over a decade

and that until I learned how to feel safe in my body, it didn't matter how perfect I ate or

how many supplements I took or how perfect my sleep was, if my body was getting the message that

we are running from a tiger metaphorically, it's not going to rest and digest and it's not going

to heal and all the other things I was trying to improve were not going to be optimal. So very

long way of saying that for me it was a very long and winding road and I wish I could go back

and tell my 15 years ago self that I needed to look at all those pieces to begin with but I'm

really grateful for the journey because it taught me about all those pieces along the way.

Welcome Katie. Thanks so much for joining us today. We're so excited to talk to you all about health

and wellness. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to chat with you. I know we got to do a

reverse on my podcast and I'm excited for the conversation to go this way now. Absolutely.

For listeners, if you don't know Katie, she is from Wellness Mama and she has an amazing podcast

that time was just recently on but you can also check out her website for recipes, natural remedies,

a lot of great wellness products and so much more. So thank you Katie for joining us.

Thanks for having me. So in the episode we recorded for your podcast, you told me that you had

hypothyroid and I feel like this is such an interesting thing to touch on and to start with because

you reversed it and perhaps that's what kick started you into the health and wellness world.

Please tell us more about it and how you did that. Yeah, absolutely. In hindsight, I'm very thankful

for the journey because I learned so much through the process but while I was in it, it was a very

frustrating process and to get this short version, it began actually when I was pregnant with my first

and after delivering him, I started having some weird symptoms but I kept getting dismissed by doctors

and just being told that's normal for postpartum. Women just have to deal with that. It's all in your

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