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Lucky to be here today, Georgia, actually. Keep falling asleep on public transport.

Oh, so how do you do that? I've never understood how anyone can do that. Talk me through it.

Do you just completely forget where you are?

Well, I'm generally clinging onto a handbag, so I like a cray, cray person. I'm hanging

all the hold of my handbag, then I put my head up against the side of the glass or, you

know, maybe there's a bit that's jutting out and then I'm just gone and then I've missed

my stop a couple of days ago. I completely missed it, woke up, stopped later, which was

the end of the line. Thank God. Otherwise, I would have ended up in like Pulsemouth had

been on a different train and then I've had to go back and get my car, but I just feel

like you either want to sleep. Some of these keynotes, like I don't need to sleep, I just

have five hours sleep a night. I mean, I need more sleep. I'm not going to get in at any

opportunity. And it's all I'm just sitting down. How many hours sleep do you get at night?

Seven, eight, seven to eight. Because you're always in bed at like 9.30.

Yeah, so I probably go to, I'm asleep usually by 10, 10.30 and then do you watch TV in

bed? No, not really. No, no, we don't really. Okay, you just go to bed with you. Yeah,

I might get cross if he doesn't. So it's like 10.45. I'm like, James is 10.45 and this

is getting ridiculous now. And then I get up like any time, I don't know, seven-ish,

I guess I get up. Yeah. Is Gigi waking, is Gigi waking you up at 5.30? 5.45 still? No,

no, we don't have that. But I don't want to talk about it because you know what that's

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