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The thing that I try to do, and maybe this is like a good advice for husbands and fathers,

is I try to take a couple of hours every day and make them as sacred as possible.

And yes, if like a war breaks out and sometimes you have to cancel even the sacred time,

but we've been pretty good about making sure that I have at least a couple of hours with my family every single day.

And sometimes that means, you know, I'm on the phone until 3 a.m.

Or sometimes that means I'm back in the White House after I put the kids to bed.

But just have that sacred time that you protect, that you turn out the phone, you tune out work,

and you just focus on your wife and your kids.

And that's worked very well for us.

And even this job, it's possible.

And that is the vice president.

Obviously, he's going to be speaking with Will Kane a little bit later today.

But he spoke with Katie Miller.

And Katie is host of the Katie Miller podcast.

She was an advisor and spokesperson for Doge from January up until May, serves as deputy

press secretary under President Trump at the Department of Homeland Security from

2017 to 2019. And most importantly, she joins us now. Katie, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me, Brian. It's exciting to be here.

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