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Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show with your host, Eric Mataxis.

Hello, I didn't see you come in.

I'm sitting here talking to Katie Hopkins, who makes me even more silly than usual.

And so that's one of the reasons I love her.

Katie, you were just telling us really an amazing story.

It's hard for me to fathom as a father of a daughter.

The idea, the idea that medical professionals were effectively bullying you,

trying to bully you, into killing your child on the off chance,

or maybe they thought not so off chance, that she would have problems.

Yeah. And the other thing they did after they found out that her kidneys were massive,

was they did more testing.

So they put this chip through your stomach and they pull out some bits of whatever.

And they told me she has genetic abnormalities.

But as with so many things in medicine,

they contest for something and show you something's wrong,

but they don't know the answer.

So then they can't say, oh, she'll probably be like this or like this.

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