In this truly fascinating episode, Rob is in conversation with Katie Hopkins, media personality and the most controversial former contestant of  ‘The Apprentice’. They discuss everything from the importance of being liked or not through to epilepsy and dismantling the mainstream media. This raw and honest episode is full of surprises and listening will challenge what you think about an individual who regularly polarises with her comments. If you think you know all about Katie Hopkins then listen in and find out if you really do!   KEY TAKEAWAYS You don’t genuinely need to be liked? I know all the right things I need to say and do to be loved they just don’t happen to be views that I hold. If you are honest about what you think, 50% of people may hate you but a good amount of people will warm to you because not many people are honest and prepared to be hated for it. We all go through a process of needing to reconcile what people have said about us. I need to be loved by my family and a few people who are close to me. I appreciate people who tell me I’m doing a good job but those who stop me and tell me they hate me are of no importance to me. What people read in the media is an element of me and I have to be responsible for it, they gained that impression of me from my commentary. It can be vile to them but is a truth for me. We all have truths and my truth may be completely different to your truth about something but none of us thinks we are being dishonest. Is there anything you shouldn’t have said? There is nothing I would retract, apologise for or explain. I acknowledge there will some things out there that I shouldn’t have said but you can’t ever apologise or explain on twitter because you will never win. Your critics can be good for your career, your posts don’t go viral from the people who post nice comments, they go viral when someone gets upset and there is a massive sub-thread and argument. What’s it like being in the public eye? When you’ve been in the public eye you build resilience and recognise that a lot of people who are critical of you, want to be you. I’m good at dealing with criticism but not that great at dealing with compliments. If you get 9 compliments and 1 troll it's vital you don’t just respond to the troll. If you get a compliment it’s important to own it with thanks. We can spend lots of our time looking and hearing from the same faces in the media when the really interesting stuff is everyone else. The everyday interactions and conversations we are all a part of make up the genius of life. What’s being disruptive for you? Disruption for me is not being satisfied and going along with things because it’s easier. It’s always harder to swim upstream but it’s so worth it. Swim upstream and you'll be alright.   BEST MOMENTS ‘You say things that other people don’t have the courage to say’ All the best people are mad, all the best people are weird and if you are  mad, weird and alone, I believe you are heading in the right direction’  ‘That’s what anybody involved in alternative media is about, we are trying to be ahead of stuff’ [Business, mindset, entrepreneur, disruptors] VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks  rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “Disruptors” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979 disruptive, disruptors, entreprenuer, business, social media, marketing, money, growth, scale, scale up, risk, property: http://www.robmoore.com