I'll now hand you over to my best man, Eddie.

Wow, wow, wow, second time's a charm, eh, Billy Boy?

Oh God.

Substitution, courtesy of Paddy Power, embarrassing Eddie, makes way for sensible Samuel.

Cool, that was close.

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Because with Paddy's super sub, your bet rolls over to the player coming on. Paddy Power. Valid on selected leagues and markets only. Pre-match and in-play bets on qualifying player outcome selections only. T's and Clusions apply. 18 plus scummelaware. Dot-org. This would surprise nobody to know, but it is very possible to be an alcoholic and have a career and have a family. And it is detrimental for sure.

I think especially if you start drinking young, you can kind of get emotionally and mentally stuck

in your, you know, developmentally in your 20s or teens even. That's, that definitely happens.

But people manage, people manage to live these sort of bifurcated lives

where you're hungover at work, but you're still doing your job,

and then you get off work and you drink.

And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk.

One of the deadliest diseases and addictions in the United States and in most parts of the world is not heroin and it's not the opioid crisis, it is alcohol.

And I always assumed that people who face a problem with alcohol need to quit immediately,

need to go to alcoholics anonymous and basically not have another glass of alcohol for the rest of their lives.

That is what the culture broadly suggests.

Well, my guest today was an alcoholic for much of her life,

recognized during COVID that she had a serious problem with alcohol abuse,

and followed a very different method for how to quit. One vet is assisted by medication

and at least initially allowed her to keep having some amount of alcohol until her brain was

retrained to no longer gain or seek pleasure from it. That guest will be known to many of you. Her name is Katie Herzog.

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