Welcome to another edition of Geopolitics and Empire. Quick reminder, support the broadcast, become a paid subscriber on the substack five bucks a month or 50 bucks a year. You can also buy me a coffee or send reinforcements through my donor box. We are joined today by Katie Gorka, who served as director for civil society at the Heritage Foundation.

Prior to that, she worked as a presidential appointee in the Office of Policy at the Department of Homeland Security,

among numerous other previous positions.

And she is co-author of the new book, just out titled Next Gen Marxism,

what it is and how to combat it from Encounter Books.

I'm a fan of Encounter Books.

Welcome to the podcast, Katie.

Hey, so happy to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for coming on.

We've been treating this subject on the podcast for a while now.

I think it's an important subject.

I had Jeffrey Paul on, J. Michael Waller, and now yourself. And so next-gen Marxism, what spurred

you to write the book, to identify this sort of as our main threat? Do you feel it's the principal

threat to the USA today?

Oh, 100%. Yeah. I mean, I really do. So what spurted is, as you mentioned in my bio, I left the Trump administration and then I went over to the Heritage Foundation. And there were a

couple things going on. So that was like right before the COVID

shutdown that I made that move. And, you know, one of the first things I got really involved with at

Heritage was pushing back on that New York Times project, the 1619 project, which came out in August 2019. And if you remember, that was

Hannah Nicole Jones leading that effort. And it was really rewriting our history and telling us that

we were systemically racist and we've always been racist, we are founded on racism.

She actually argued that the American Revolution was fought in order to protect slavery and just

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