This week, Invisibili, a show about the invisible forces that shape human behavior,

is looking at the biased concepts in our heads and whether it's possible to change them.

You'll meet the people who designed the Implicit Association's test,

a support group in Southern California called Racists Anonymous,

and a young black police officer trying to train his fellow officers and himself

to combat prejudice. You can listen to Invisibili in the NPR-1 app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

I'm Jesse Thorn, Mark Marin. You know, Mark Marin. He had his own TV show on IFC,

Stand Up Comedian. He's been on Conan Dozens and Dozens of Times as a comic. He hosts his

super duper famous podcast WTF. There's one thing that anybody knows about WTF, Mark's show.

It's that he's done almost every interview for it in his garage in Los Angeles,

like even when he booked a Barack Obama. Did Mark Marin go to the White House?

No, he did not. President Barack Obama with his secret service detail and all rolled up

to Mark Marin's garage in Highland Park. Even though recording at his house is kind of Mark Marin's

thing, as much a part of his brand as his interviews, he's actually kind of not into it.

I don't really want people in my house. Like I have one bathroom. You know, there's no where

for people to sit. So when they come, if I'm alone, that means I got to go out in the garage with

the guest and anywhere from one to five people are in my house just unmanaged. It's Bullseye.

Coming up, selections from my new podcast The Turn Around. Interviews with some of the best

interviewers in the world. You'll hear more from Mark Marin. Plus, we've got Audit Cornish,

just one of the hosts of NPR's All Things Considered. She interviews people from pretty much every

walk of life. People she might not really agree with personally or maybe people she doesn't even like.

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