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I'm so excited to be interviewing Katie Arnold.

Katie is a contributing editor at Outside Magazine, where she has been on staff for 12 years.

She writes a column for outside online called Raising Rippers about how to Raise Adventurous Kids. She has contributed to the New York Times, travel and leisure Elle, and many other publications, and currently lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico with her husband and her two daughters. Running home, a memoir, is her first book. So welcome to Katie. Thanks so much for coming on. Moms Don't have time to read books. Thanks for having me. It's exciting to be here.

Katie made a special trip in from visiting New Jersey, so I feel particularly honored that she was willing to do that for this.

So can you please tell listener what your beautiful memoir called Running Home is about?

Sure. Running home, well, it's about a lot of things. Predominantly, it's about my relationship with running and with my father,

and how the two kind of converged after he died in 2010.

And I was beset by this really kind of crippling anxiety.

I just had a new baby.

I had a toddler and an infant.

And after he died, I became convinced that I was dying, too.

And I didn't realize at the time that that's not uncommon.

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