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Hi, everyone.

I'm Rachel Zoe, and you're listening to Works for Us, where we talk to people about what

works for them in their relationships, and of course, what doesn't.

Okay, today is a very special day for me because one of the most incredible women that I've

had the pleasure of knowing the most gorgeous, the most amazing, the ultimate queen, Miss Kathy

Hilton. She's here with us, well, here with me, and I couldn't be happier about it.

Honestly, Kathy needs no introduction, but I'll give her one anyway because,

you know, that's what we do. Okay, Kathy Hilton is a, I mean, a massive, huge philanthropist,

untripanor, fashion designer, newly minted Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Star. So we're all

Bravo alumni technically here. Kathy is, of course, the mother of Paris,

Nikki, Conrad, and Baron Hilton, and the wife of famed Rick Hilton, who I love dearly. We didn't

invite the guys today. All right. So Kathy, I'm so excited to have you on Works for us. So thanks for

being here. Thank you for having me. Oh my God.

I love you so much. And, you know, for our listeners, I will in full disclosure, say that

Kathy and I have been friends for many, many years. But I do like to start from the beginning because, do you remember where we met or how

we met?

Well, we had met many times before because you and Paris were friendly.

And I remember that Paris or Nikki and I were in Gucci and Beverly Hills.

Yes.

And we said hi to you.

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