When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized.

You do?

Yeah. Did you hear about that?

I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected and we made it the one.

In the sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic.

Nothing in itself is addictive on one hand. And in the hand, everything could be addictive if

there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled. I now know that nobody changes

until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life.

I'm Gwyneth Peltro. This is the Goop Podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture

changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers. Here to start

conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power

to change the way we see the world.

Here we go.

Welcome to the Goop Podcast.

I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, and today I am joined by an actor whose work I have deeply admired

for years.

She's actually in my top, too.

She brings humor and chaos and depth and humanity to every role she touches.

We had a wonderful conversation about embracing complexity, empty nests, and motherhood, navigating aging aging and the beauty of middle life.

And I've never laughed harder during a podcast.

Honest, hilarious, and completely herself.

Catherine Hahn.

...