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Well, of course, the holiday season is always a reminder that faith is such a central part of our lives.

Sometimes you get so busy and get pulled away from it.

But really, getting back to that core is what it's all about as we look at this season. So today, I have the pleasure to speak with the former Today Show host, Kathy Lee

Gifford, and dig into the honest conversations that she's been having with other people about

their faith, despite different beliefs in her new book, which is titled, The Jesus I Know,

Honest Conversations and Diverse Opinions about who he is.

And she joins me now for The Untold Story.

Kathy Lee, it's always a pleasure to see you, and I'm so happy to be with you today.

How are you doing?

Always happy to be with you, sweetie.

You're one of the people I just admire on every level. You keep doing what you're doing. Always happy to be with you, sweetie. You're one of the people I just admire on every level.

You keep doing what you're doing. Thank you, Kathy Lee. And I, you know, the podcast listeners won't see

the beautiful spot you're in. But we, I remember last time you talked to, you talked about moving

to Nashville. And are you in your home there right now? Because it's just, it's so beautiful. I am.

I have two writing rooms next to each other. One of them, this one I'm in is that we're if I'm writing with somebody who plays guitar, we're in here. We're next door just a couple

feet away. It's my, it's my piano room. So it's just a joyful, joyful place down here.

The community of faith is strong here. And you'll hear church bells ringing in my little community just on the quarter hour.

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