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🗓️ 25 January 2023
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Zibby interviews author, psychotherapist, and former Google on-site therapist Katherine Morgan Schafler about her rigorously researched, empathetic, and empowering new book The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and Power – a love letter to all ambitious, high-achieving women. Katherine describes the five types of perfectionism (classic, intense, Parisian, messy, and procrastinator), the actionable steps all perfectionists can take to build self-compassion, and how her career in psychotherapy has changed her life. She also talks candidly about the time she finally lost all control and how she came back better from it.
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0:58.3 | Thank you. at Zcastnetwork.com and definitely check out those shows as well. Catherine Morgan Schaffler is the author of the Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, |
1:03.1 | a Path to Peace and Power. |
1:05.1 | She is a psychotherapist writer and speaker and former on-site therapist at Google. |
1:09.3 | She earned degrees and trained at UC Berkeley |
1:11.5 | and Columbia University with post-graduation certification from the Association for Spirituality and |
1:17.7 | Psychotherapy in New York City. As you'll hear in our episode, I basically tried to get her to be |
1:22.0 | a therapist for me, but she is not accepting new patients, so we'll have to be friends. Enjoy. |
1:26.6 | Welcome, Catherine. Thank you so much for |
1:28.5 | coming on moms. Don't have time to read books to discuss the perfectionist's guide to losing |
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