There's this myth that is easy to buy into, that in order to be beautiful, life has to

be perfect, that in order to experience fullness and joy and calling, then we should get back

to the way we were before, before the illness or the accident or the job loss or the grief

or that relationship. It just isn't true. You know it, I know it, and my guests today

know it too. My name is Kate Boehler and this is Everything Happens. My guests today

were so young and baby married when their lives unraveled, so the life they rebuilt

looks dramatically different than the one they thought they would have. There's is not

a story of triumph over difficulty, but of the enduringness of suffering and recovery

and the necessity of caregiving and love over the long haul. I feel so lucky that I get

to be speaking to them some 15 years after the original crisis, because theirs is the

kind of story that gets better and better, because it is full of hard one hope and resilience

and years and years of commitment to one another and to the habits that make hope possible.

Together, they tell a story of profound retrospective wisdom they can trace, a story of miracles

in the face of terrible odds, a story of God's persistent love during the darkest of moments,

a story of resilience that was born because of good habits.

Beth Moore said something lovely to me once, she said, God didn't cause this suffering,

but God will make it matter. These are two people working really hard to make all the best and

worst parts of their lives matter. Today I have the great honor of speaking with not one, but two

incredible people. Catherine and Jay Wolf are survivors and communicators and advocates. Catherine's

life nearly ended with a catastrophic stroke and miraculously she survived and continues her

recovery to this day. And Catherine and Jay shared their story of this beautiful rich,

resilient hope through their books, hope heels and suffer strong and through the camp they created

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