Hey everybody welcome to the mere Christians podcast I'm Jordan

Rayner how does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians, those of us who aren't

pastors or religious professionals but who work as audiologist, housekeepers, and

special ed teachers? That's the question we explore every week and today

I'm posing it to my friend Caitlin James. She's the founder of Caitlin James photography and

education teaching more than 40,000 photographers how to build profitable and purposeful businesses.

Caitlin and I recently sat down to talk about what the tragic death of her son taught her about life and

work. We talked about how to resolve conflicts at work in a Christ-honoring way and

how refusing to listen to the Holy Spirit has cost Caitlin not just

communion with the Father but tens of thousands of dollars. I think you guys are

going to love this conversation with my friend Caitlin James.

Caitlin.

Caitlin welcome to the podcast.

Thank you.

It's an honor to be here.

I'm so excited.

Hey, I've read in your, we've known each other for a few months.

If I read something in your bio,

you kind of knew you were an entrepreneur as a kid, is that right?

Yes, well I didn't know what an entrepreneur was, but apparently I was one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh man, it's so funny because I look back now, I'm like, oh my gosh, that's where all this started. I started buying these 90-cent plates from Walmart and I'd paint them and then I'd bake them in my mom's oven and then I would take them to craft fairs and I'd make like a thousand dollars and I'd sell them for like 45 bucks.

What a country? Yeah, so I came home the the first time that happened, you know, it's like a 15, I don't know, maybe even a 14 year old,

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