You're listening to Unfiltered with James James O'Brien. My guest this week is the poet, playwright and mercury prize nominated

Rapper Kate Tempest. She's got a new book of poetry out in September called

running upon the wires and as someone who's always struck me as being at the

I mean the absolute extremities of self-expression I'm genuinely nervous about

interviewing her because I think I well in short I think she hates being

interviewed. You don't like being interviewed? I've sensed in the past.

It's not that I don't like it when it's something interesting. I tell you what it is I feel like when I can have a serious discussion I really really enjoy it and in fact I relish the opportunity to talk about the things that I'm passionate about. But occasionally, in fact frequently I feel

I might have a kind of condescended to or patronised or sensationalised and it just gets a bit eggy,

you know, it's like...

I do, I understand. Also people talk to artists in this really funny way sometimes where they, when they interview you as if you've kind of fallen from heaven and like you've got all these interesting things to say about things you're not really qualified to be pontificating on.

And instead of like having an interesting kind of meaty discussion about the stuff that you've developed expertise in or areas that you're really focused on.

You're kind of pedestalized and there's that that isn't an enjoyable place to have a chat.

That's fame isn't it?

It is because you are famous you must be possessed of some quality

that the rest of ordinary mortals don't? I mean it's bollocks obviously but it's

where it's where perhaps the idea comes from. I don't know if it's foam I just think it's a kind of strange convention in how we've kind of

learned to talk to artists. It's a misunderstanding of the craft. Well you've got me

on my on tiptoes now then you You go. That's all right.

Good, you should, but I'm going to be editing my questions.

I suspect as I ask them.

I thought it would also perhaps be to do with the importance of the right words that in your work.

I mean poetry nothing is extraneous is it?

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