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Woman's Hour

Kate Rusby, Gay Women and Sport, Motor Racing

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Kate Rusby is one of the UK’s leading folk singers. She joins Andrea Catherwood to talk about her latest album 30: Happy Returns. She's collaborated with musicians such as Ladysmith Black Mambazo, K. T. Tunstall and Richard Hawley to sing new versions of her old songs and to celebrate thirty years of making music. The footballer Jake Daniels has come out as gay. He's the first current male professional footballer to do so, which shows you how unusual it is. So, is it harder to be yourself in the men's game compared to the women's? With us on Woman's Hour is the footballer Lianne Sanderson who's won 50 international caps for England and was the first professional female player to come out 12 years ago, and Dr Rachael Bullingham, who's a senior lecturer at the University of Gloucestershire and specialises in homophobia in women's sport. We speak to the BBC's Sarah Rainsford who's covering the war in Ukraine about the Wives of Azov. Their husbands are part of the Azov Regiment who are seen as heroes in Ukraine because they've been defending Mariupol, but they've been trapped for more than two months in a steel works. Overnight some of them managed to get out of there. Paula McGowan's autistic son died when because he was given anti-psychotic drugs, despite warnings from him and his family. His death was described as ‘avoidable’. Paula is now on the brink of achieving her goal which is that all health and social care staff must, by law, undergo mandatory training in autism and learning disability awareness. We speak to Paula, as well as Alexis Quinn, who's been involved in piloting the training.

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:05.0

Hello, I'm Andrea Catawood and welcome the two women's hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:11.1

Good morning.

0:12.1

Herald had as grind-breaking and historic not-to-mentioned brave.

0:16.2

Jake Daniels, the 17-year-old striker for Blackpool Football Club,

0:20.0

is all over the front pages of today's newspapers, having come out as gay,

0:24.3

making him the first current male professional footballer to do so.

0:28.2

In fact, extraordinarily, there are only two openly gay men

0:31.4

in the whole of professional football worldwide.

0:34.5

Here's what he said.

0:35.5

I feel like I'm ready to tell people about my story.

0:38.6

I want people to know the real me and blind all the time.

0:42.0

It isn't what I've wanted to do and it has been a struggle.

0:44.0

But now I just do feel like I'm ready to be myself, be free and just be confident with all.

0:49.8

I'm ready to be myself for Jake's words there.

0:52.8

But it seems like it's a very different story in women's sport.

0:56.4

Or is it?

0:57.4

This morning we want to hear from you about whether or not you can be yourself in sport.

1:02.8

Whether you're a professional or enjoy some gentle five aside,

1:06.2

whether it's on the tennis court or golf course, netball or rugby,

1:09.3

whatever you're sport, whatever you're level,

1:11.6

do you think it's easier for women to be themselves?

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