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The TED Interview

Kate Raworth argues that rethinking economics can save our planet

The TED Interview

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Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.42.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2019

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Endless growth may actually be hurting our economy—and our planet. Economist Kate Raworth makes a case for “doughnut economics”: an alternative way to look at the economic systems ruling our societies and imagine a sustainable future for all.

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective

0:10.8

Welcome to the Ted interview. I'm Chris Anderson.

0:13.7

This is the podcast series where I sit down with the Ted Speaker and we get to dive much

0:17.7

deeper into their ideas than was possible during their TED Talk.

0:22.6

Today on the show, when it comes to our economy, is growth always a good thing? Should it really

0:28.2

be the arctic we use to measure the health of our economies? My guest today, Kate Rehworth,

0:33.9

says, absolutely not. It's time to think again, to reimagine the shape of progress. Because

0:42.4

today we have economies that need to grow whether or not they make us thrive. And what we need,

0:51.6

especially in the richest countries, are economies that make us thrive whether or not they

0:57.5

grow. Kate Rehworth is an economist and the creator of what she calls Donut Economics, a model

1:05.2

that prioritises sustainability and the health of our planet over endlessly expanding

1:11.0

output and profits. This conversation was recorded live in London in front of an attentive

1:16.2

audience. Now, I loved Kate's TED Talk, but in this format, we had so much time to really

1:22.3

dive into the details of how she sees the world. I found it both provocative and really

1:28.1

compelling. If you care about climate change or the future of capitalism or just humanity's

1:35.1

ability to survive and thrive in the years ahead, I think you're going to find this one interesting.

1:40.4

Alright then, I would like to introduce you to a remarkable woman. She's an economist, but an

1:58.0

economist who's taken it upon herself to seek to overthrow some of the core tenets of economics.

2:06.5

Instead of that, she wants to propose something she calls Donut Economics. What an earth is that?

2:13.8

Let's find out. Please welcome Kate Rehworth.

2:24.1

Kate, welcome to the TED interview. Thank you so much. So, if I have it right, it's your

2:30.9

opinion that a core economic idea that we all grew up with, which is that growth is really important

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