I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WB EZ Chicago.

Join me as I share how the genre began, their social impact, and why these stories endure.

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Hello, you're listening to Nerdette from WBEZ in Chicago.

I'm Greta Johnson.

And I'm Trisha Bobita.

This week we have a conversation with the one and only Kate Mulgrew for you. If her name doesn't ring a bell, I bet this will.

If you attempt to remove anything from our ship, it will be considered an act of war.

You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time.

But I don't like bullies, and I don't like threats, and I don't like you color.

That's her as Captain Janeway of Star Trek Voyager, and of course, known to many of you more

recently as red on Orange is the New Black.

All I wanted was to eat the chicken that is smarter than other chickens and to absorb

its power and make a nice Kiev blow well.

The mythical chicken from Orange is the New Black and the more than mythical red played by

as we were saying, Kate Mulgrew, who has a new memoir out.

It's called Born with Teeth, and we're going to talk to her more about her life on and off-screen coming up.

But before we jump in, we've got a few housekeeping notes.

As is evidenced by the name of this show, we're nerds about lots of things,

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