Hey guys welcome to episode 215 of the podcast with my wonderful guest

Kate Leth. She is terrific. We had a wonderful conversation. I think you guys are gonna like it and therefore I have to very

immediately thank the Twitter handle SE Andres I'm sorry if I said that

wrong my friend SE but you connected Kate and me

suggested it on Twitter and that's a power of Twitter everybody we we

went ahead and just jumped right in and did it so I'm so delighted. I want to also

thank Nicole, thank you so much for helping me work on my website. I don't know if

you'll hear this but if you do please know how much I appreciate you.

I want to thank Liz for your email Joseph of course for your email.

You know I got some really interesting thoughtful emails based off the Annie

Leonard episode and like many of you I've sort of gone back and forth with

extreme environmentalism I certainly don't believe that people should be

harmed in any way during the acts of

environmental protection. I think that Greenpeace has a sort of a checkered history

and certainly a reputation that may or may not be

accurate but but I'm really interested in the story of stuff and I think Annie's

terrific so I hope you guys enjoyed the episode I know a couple of you want to

talk about the sort of trigger idea too because I was sort of coming

at it from a like mental health trigger perspective and I think Annie was coming at it

from a sort of issues that make you angry perspective.

So we tried to kind of, I tried to kind of cross over into her world,

but hopefully that conversation made sense.

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