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Standard Issue Podcast

Kate Bryan wants you to art

Standard Issue Podcast

Standard Issue

Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Art historian, curator and broadcaster Kate Bryan is on a mission to wrest control of the art world from asymmetric haircuts and aloofness, and put it firmly back in the hands of us all. In her new book, How To Art, which is illustrated by David Shrigley, she sets about doing exactly that. Jen chats to Kate about entering the art world from a working-class background, how to talk about art even if you don’t really know what you’re talking about, and why snobbery is so rife in the art world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Standard issue for all women.

0:02.4

Hello, Jen here to tell you about today's podcast.

0:05.8

But before I do, what else have we got coming up this week on standard issue?

0:09.7

I hear you ask.

0:11.5

Well, in tomorrow's rated or dated, we're watching Hitchcock classic 1960s psycho.

0:21.0

But how the hell a horror wasses Mickey and I going to cope with this?

0:24.8

And why the F did Mickey even choose it?

0:28.4

I expect there'll be more horror on Thursday as Hannah and I dig into the week's top stories in the Bush Telegraph.

0:33.5

And on Friday, there's a brand new episode of Outside the Box,

0:37.3

in which I do hope we're going

0:38.8

to get a chance to chat about hostage and some absolutely textbook French sexual deviancy,

0:44.7

among other things. But back to today. In today's podcast, I chat to art historian, curator and

0:50.9

broadcaster Kate Bryan about her new book book How to Art, which is illustrated by

0:55.4

David Shrigley, don't you know? Kate is on a mission to wrestle control of the art world

1:00.4

from asymmetric haircuts and snobbery and put it fully back in the hands of people like you and me

1:06.0

who like looking at it, but maybe don't know exactly what the artist was trying to say,

1:12.5

aka most people.

1:17.4

I loved chatting to Kate and I hope you enjoy listening to us. As ever, if you're a £5 or above Patreon, there's a longer version for you, including chat on how to get kids into art,

1:22.2

and what even is art? Shrugs. If you're not a £5 or above Patreon, stay listening until the end to find out

1:28.7

how to get involved. And if after hearing this, you want to go and look at some art, the annual

1:34.0

Art History Festival, organised by the Association for Art History, is currently running until the 21st

1:41.2

of September. More information is available online at

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