Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues,

courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

Hey, it's Ryan.

Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic podcast.

It's always interesting when you find out you disagree with someone.

Like, you're aligned on most things,

and then they just have a very different opinion than you.

You know, like, put aside bad faith, disagreements or criticisms.

Those are difficult to handle,

and none of us are particularly great at dealing with that.

But what about, like, when there's someone who particularly great at dealing with that. But what about

when there's someone who you're lined up with on most things? You are fans of many of the same

things, and then you find out that they've got a very different opinion than you. Kate Bowler,

whose work I love, she's a professor of religious history at Duke University, at 35. She basically finds out she has stage

four cancer, basically a terminal diagnosis. And all of a sudden, she knows just to rethink,

like not just her life, how little of it might be left, but, you know, all her views about

suffering and success and control and faith and hope, all of that, right? In the way that a diagnosis like that would turn everything upside out. And she wrote this beautiful essay in the New York Times that my sister and I connected over when my sister was going through cancer. In that essay, she quotes and talks about the Sto. She's been on the podcast a couple times. I'm a huge fan of her work. We've always gotten along. I don't know if we're

friends. We hadn't ever met, but we were certainly friendly. So it was interesting. I read this

interview that she did. And she basically is saying in the interview, like, I think it's total

crap, this idea when people say, you might not be able to control what happens, but you can

always control how you respond to what happens.

And I was like, ooh, I feel attacked.

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