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Book Riot - The Podcast

KATABASIS by R.F. Kuang

Book Riot - The Podcast

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4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Jeff, Rebecca, and Vanessa talk about Katabasis by R.F. Kuang. Spoiler-free discussion for the first bit, with warning when we wade into deeper plot waters. Subscribe to the podcast via RSS, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify. Sign up for the Book Riot Podcast Newsletter and follow the show on Instagram and Bluesky. Get more industry news with our Today in Books daily newsletter. Ready for a cozy, bookish autumn? Let Tailored Book Recommendations help you find your next favorite read with handpicked suggestions from professional book nerds. Get started today from just $18! Use code BOOKRIOT to get an exclusive 60% off an annual Incogni plan at https://incogni.com/bookriot This content contains affiliate links. When you buy through these links, we may earn an affiliate commission. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the book ride podcast. I'm Jeff O'Neill, joined today by Rebecca Shinski.

0:08.8

And Vanessa Diaz, we're getting the Powell's crew back together to talk about, I guess,

0:15.9

the book of the year, question mark, Vanessa and Rebecca. So far. before we get into our reactions we've all read

0:22.8

the book we're going to do this way we're going to discuss you know what the book is our impressions

0:28.8

of it will give you a spoiler warning because then we do want to get into specifics there

0:32.6

Sharifah was going to join us she isn't feeling well I think that's just a cover because

0:37.4

she needs to start on her Magnolia C that's just a cover because she needs to

0:38.0

start on her Magnolia Cripke costume for Halloween and she has to start right now. And she has to

0:43.2

tie in a podcast, Vanessa. I think you might be on to something. Sharifa was so bummed.

0:49.6

Terrible timing for the flu household with little kids. She did tell me this was her favorite novel of the

0:56.1

year to date. So we'll just have to have the aura of Sharifah with us today. It is extraordinarily

1:03.3

Sharifakor. I'm not surprised and we can get into some of the reasons there. If you like

1:07.2

boiled the person of Sharifa into a book, I think it would come out as Catapagosus. Rebecca, why don't you give us as best as you, like, boiled the person of Sharifah into a book, I think it would come out as Catapuses.

1:12.4

Yeah.

1:12.6

Rebecca, why don't you give us as best as you can an overview of, like, up till release day?

1:18.6

What is the story of Kwong, Catabasis?

1:20.6

Why are we doing this pod today?

1:22.6

Apart from whether our reaction to the book.

1:24.5

Well, R.F. Kwong, one of the hottest young writers, I think,

1:29.3

in American fiction. She came out of the gate hot with the Poppy Wars. It did better, I think,

1:35.3

than anyone expected. Babel award winner, award nominee, great literary science fiction. And then

1:43.3

Yellowface, where she was exploring a white woman taking

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