We're now at a point where over 90% of Americans across the political spectrum believe that marijuana should be legalized.

No one should be going to jail for this.

Unfortunately, they also think that it has been legalized and no one's going to jail for this.

And, you know, we've had a quarter of a million people arrested in the United States last year, 92% of them for simple possession of cannabis.

We have close to 3,000 people at the federal level serving long-term, some life sentences

for amounts of cannabis less than dispensaries deal with on a daily basis, tens of thousands

more at the state level.

And in a lot of places where we've actually seen D.C. where I live, where you used to live, when legalization of cannabis was passed because it's an adult use model, not a decrim model.

We actually saw arrests go up for young people. So we're responding. We're pushing back on that.

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Today's guest is Kat Murdi, the new executive director of Students for Sensible Drug Policy, or SSDP,

the country's oldest and most influential student group challenging the war on drugs.

Before taking the helm at SSDP, Kat was a longtime staffer at the Libertarian Cato Institute,

a founder of Feminist for Liberty, and an

SSDP chapter head at UC Berkeley, where she attended undergrad.

We talk about the role that young people in particular can play in ending prohibition,

why marijuana has yet to be legalized at the federal level, and whether Donald Trump and Republicans or Joe Biden and Democrats are actually worse when it comes to drug policy reform.

This interview was taped live at an event co-sponsored by The Psychedelic Assembly in Midtown Manhattan.

Go to the psychedelic assembly.com to get more information about their

events and membership options. Here is the Reason interview with Cat Murdy.

Kat Murdy, thanks for talking to Reason. Thanks for having me.

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