Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. Big news this week. President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter,

ending his criminal cases, and President-elect Donald Trump selected his ally, Cash Patel, for FBI director.

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Hunter Biden. Okay. Before we get to the pros and cons or the merits of it, and there is a lot of

strong opinion about this for, I think, good reason, because it's an unusual thing to have done,

particularly given what Joe Biden has said before. Before we get to any of that, can we talk

about the nature of the pardon? So Hunter Biden, to remind everyone, pled guilty to tax charges, and went to trial on

somewhat peculiar gun charges. Both of those resulted in convictions, one by guilty plea, one by

trial verdict, and he was heading to sentencing in the coming weeks, and Joe Biden issued him a pardon, but not just for

those particular charges. Do you want to explain to folks the breadth of the pardon?

You know, this is a comprehensive pardon. It covers a 10-year period that ends on December 1st of this

year. And it's essentially a, out of jail free card kind of pardon,

a you're covered for everything kind of pardon. Now, I suspect that that's where our views about

this sort of pardon will begin to diverge. It's unusual, by the way. Most pardons are for specific

crimes in specific time periods. And this sort of blanket

pardon, in my view, speaks to the moment and what Joe Biden was concerned about. But, you know,

there are a lot of folks out there this morning saying that it's not legitimate, that it can be

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