Hello and welcome to the working songwriter the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host Joe Pug. Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask

them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, shaking your fist at the heavens over a

75 cent royalty check from Google, or else... over a

scrappy upstart scrappy upstart

thinking this really could be the night

that the head of Columbia Records walks into the open mic night

at your local barring grill.

This is your show.

Because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most.

An ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey guys, before we get started today, I just want to thank everyone who came out to the Australian tour this month,

and I want to thank our promoter, BT, who pretty much single-handedly keeps great American songs alive down in Australia.

So thank you, BT.

Thank you to everyone that came to the concerts.

It was great spending a couple weeks with Robert Ellis and his band.

Between shows, we actually brainstormed heavily in the van about a possible side project that we have

tentatively entitled Three Chords in the Truthers

wherein we combine like hard on the in the

words, wherein we combine like heart on the sleeve acoustic ballads with Alex Jones level

conspiracy theories.

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