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I became a mom much later in life.

And my biggest thing because I was such a workaholic and I still am, but in a different way.

And my challenge, even before I had kids, was how to have me time, right? And then when I had my kids, I was like, wow, what would have happened if I did this like in my 20s? You know,

what would that have been like trying to sort of do that, that juggle? And so talking to you, I'm thinking,

well, you've now been a mom for so long, you know, and it's, I think my question

is sort of like, you know, finding that time and do you find now that you've had your third child,

have you found that the struggle is, it's almost a little easier for you to figure out how to go back to being Carolina,

like alone Carolina when you need to be or mommy Carolina when you need to be?

Because that's always been my challenge, honestly.

I tried to bring the kids everywhere and like never leave them and work at the same time. And I felt like that wasn't

productive because I was like just like this all the time. So, but I did find that by my second son,

it was a bit easier for me to get my head out of like out of the clouds a little bit to be like,

okay, I can do this. you know. So my question is

because I have funny enough, I have a few friends with five kids, many friends with four,

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