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Today my guest is Carla McLaren.

Carla McLaren is an award-winning author, Social Science researcher, and empathy pioneer.

Her work focuses on a grand unified theory of emotions in which she moves us beyond looking at some emotions as negative and some emotions as positive and instead helps people see the intelligence and even the genius that lives inside every single emotion and how emotions are actually messengers and friends.

Which sounds true, Cardinal McLaren has written the classic book,

The Language of Emotions, as well as a book called The Art of Empathy, a Guide to Life's

most essential skill, and a new book, Embracing Anxiety, How to Access the Genius Inside This Vital Emotion.

Karla McLaren is a true pioneer.

She is a fierce truth teller and she's always willing to say it, how she sees it.

Here's my conversation with Karla McLaren on how to befriend our emotions at this time.

Carla, it's great to be with you again.

I have such a deep respect for your view and teaching on emotions.

So thanks for being here on Insights at the Edge.

Thank you.

It's so good to be with you again.

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