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Hello and welcome to today's In Conversation with Podcast. I am Georgie Corridge Cole,

Shailax's founder and CEO and I am thrilled to be joined by the one and only Karen Wazen.

Karen is a digital entrepreneur and a global tastemaker amongst many other hats that she wears.

Karen has built a hugely successful career, all while keeping family, culture

and community and authenticity at the heart of everything she does. Today we're going to be

talking work, fashion, life, motherhoods and everything it takes to manage being so in the public eye.

Karen, thank you so much for joining us today.

I'm so grateful that you have managed to squeeze us into your very busy agenda.

I'm happy to.

You know, it wouldn't be a visit to London if I don't get to see the Queen of London yourself.

No, hardly, hardly.

Hardly, hardly.

You've got a very busy agenda.

I overheard you saying you've got how many flights?

I know, the sad truth.

I have eight flights and 12 days.

Where are you going? Around Europe. So I could have made it less, but I have to be back home for my kids and also my work. So I'm in London now going back to Dubai, then we'll go to Milan, then we'll come back to Dubai, then we'll go to Paris for the first bit of fashion week, then come back to Dubai, then go for the last bit. And we can do it. And it's always like this for you, isn't it, around this time? I mean, yeah, it definitely gets a bit more like crowded with the travels throughout fashion week, but I've also become used to traveling. I think that's also what's kind of nice about Dubai. We have Emirates Airlines, which makes every trip feel like not so bad. Yeah, it's not that much of a hardship, is it? Getting on an Emirates plane on your own with no children.

Peace. Yeah, I actually really quite like it. Also, before we went live, we was doing a mic check with what you had for breakfast. And I sadly wanted crumpets, but I ran out of time this morning. Do you know what a crumpet is? No, but it sounds like a very British breakfast. Do you like Marmite? Not my favorite.

Anyway,

trumpet's excellent.

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