This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reed.

There was no rebuttal by the prosecution. I was a little bit surprised by that, but, you know, sometimes less is more. What was your reaction?

I was surprised to, you know, Judge Canoni made a statement around the time

defense was going to wrap things up saying, like, hey, these jurors are tired, we're fatigued,

something to that effect. And I wonder if that sort of telegraphed to the prosecution,

like, hey, you could put on another four experts and

we could drag this thing out another two weeks, but is that going to help you with this jury?

Have you already made a strong enough case such that the risk of fatiguing these jurors further

and possibly getting them not on your side?

Is that worth it? And I don't think it was

worth it. So I think the prosecution made a calculated decision that, hey, we're not going to

pile on anymore. We've done what we needed to do. Let's give it to the jury. And that's been an

interesting thing hearing people describe what the jury is looking like. And even the judge saying it as well.

And she said something to the effect of, yeah, they're looking fatigued or I don't remember exactly what she said, but something of that nature.

What does that tell you?

You know, as an attorney, as a defense attorney, as a former prosecutor, when we're getting close to close to i mean we now have the defense being

wrapped up and they're showing that sort of fatigue as you're still trying to present your case in chief

in the last handful of days and they're looking like god get me the hell out of here uh that i don't know

that to me that doesn't seem like it's seem like it's leaning towards we believe the defense

very much, but you tell me, can that be read both ways? How do you read it? I think you can

definitely be read both ways. You know, the prosecution took a lot of time in presenting their case

here. So the defense took a substantial amount of time, too.

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