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🗓️ 20 June 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski. |
0:05.2 | Indeed it is. |
0:06.6 | And here to help us wrap up a chapter, |
0:12.5 | I think a lot of us are happy is over, |
0:15.0 | no matter what side you are on on this. |
0:18.2 | Bob Mata, defense attorney, |
0:19.9 | host of the podcast, Defense Diaries. Welcome back. It's been a few weeks. It's been a minute, man. It's been a minute weddings and trials. Oh, my goodness. It's good to be back. It's good to be back. I've been missing you, man. Yeah, me too. So it's wrapped up. We have the verdict, obviously. People know about it. The only thing that she was charged on was the drunk driving, the OWI, the DUI, whatever it's called in that state. That's what she got. Everything else found not guilty on. It was a shock to some. It was a shock, not a shock to others. I think everybody was |
0:57.9 | kind of waiting with baited breaths on this of how this would go. And you could hear when the |
1:04.5 | verdict was read, it reminded me of OJ. Because you could, you could audibly hear the roar from the people outside of the |
1:15.0 | courthouse. So, well, during the trial, there wasn't a huge show, but at the very end, |
1:20.1 | there certainly was a large showing of support for Karen Reed. On this channel, obviously, |
1:26.5 | we've talked a lot about, you know, kind of feeling the, very much feeling the direction that she was responsible for the death of John O'Keefe. |
1:34.3 | And we've explored both sides, really, for the last two years, or however long this is gone. |
1:39.7 | But as we got closer and closer to the verdict, we know what the heck was going to happen. |
1:46.5 | Walk me through your thoughts on how this all went down, how we got to this verdict, what landed, what didn't land, why it didn't land, you know, from both sides on all these issues. |
2:00.2 | There's a lot to walk through. |
2:01.9 | Yeah, for sure. |
2:03.3 | And I mean, the way I looked at it and we had talked about this all the way back after trial one, |
2:10.8 | it was always my position as a defense attorney, just kind of armchair quarterbacking it, |
2:16.6 | that I would have focused on the science |
2:19.2 | side of it, much more than the conspiracy side of it in terms of trying to win the case. |
2:26.5 | And I feel that I was heard because, frankly, the defense tried the case exactly how I would have tried the case in terms of |
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