This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reid.

One more because this is another big one that everyone's talking about.

I'm not trying to quit you.

No.

The fact that Karen gets out of the car says she sees John, no one else sees John because the snow is covering him and knows to go right

there to where his body is. How is that explained if she didn't already know it? I mean, but like,

if she already knew, then like none of the other part of the story makes any sense in terms of, like, you can't have it both ways if you're the Commonwealth.

Because if they want to, like, if she knew that he was there, then I don't know why they're not going on the intentionally hit him and left him.

Well, because I think there's... Or just intentionally hit him.

I think there's possibilities there.

I think it doesn't necessarily mean that, um, that she looked at the window and saw he

was laying there and said, screw this, I'm going home.

I, what I wonder about is when she, why did, how did she get to that moment where she's frantically

calling the girls and saying, you know, did I hit him? Could I have hit him? And that seems to be

the main focus. Like what, what struck Karen Reed in her mind after laying there for a little

while that, oh shit, this was off.

And I'm wondering if it was looking back in that rearview mirror and the side mirror and going, I don't see him.

How did he get in the house so quick?

But just like, fuck it, I'm leaving, you know?

Just in your drunken state, and not a way of like he's down. I hit him.

Just more like, how did he get in the? I didn't see him get in the house. Yeah, I mean the problem. And then you hit that and you go, oh shit. Maybe. Have you ever hit something at 24 miles an hour? I don't think so. Maybe. I don't know. No. I'm not going to have you go test it because it'll fuck your car up.

Yeah, yeah.

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