This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski.

Karen Reid, that's who we're going to be talking about right now.

And of course, you know, Karen, we've had many conversations

are getting closer and closer to a potential new trial date,

which is not really all that super far off.

We're going to be cutting right to the chase of this roller coaster of a case here.

The legal twist, the disputed evidence, the unexpected turns.

The mistrial to new legal motions and mounting allegations of investigative misconducts.

And the retrial date set for April 2025.

Fresh developments emerging almost every single week.

The future is wide open for surprises.

Eric Fattis, defense attorney, former prosecutor,

joining us to have the conversation.

Eric, given your background on both sides of the courtroom. What's your take on

these recent motions that have been raised in the case about the evidence, the cell phone dates,

the how's long to die in cold, and everything else that they're throwing at the wall as it's going

forward? Yeah, so much going on. You know, one thing that jumps out of me is defense's motion to try to eliminate two of the

three charges.

What they're arguing is that the jury essentially came together and acquitted on the second

degree murder charge, very serious charge, and also leaving the scene of a death

in an automobile. And so I think those charges have significant merit, and there's a chance the judge

either brings back in the jury to talk about them or whatever. But if those charges are dismissed,

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