Karen and Krista Hart [2]
Canadian True Crime
Kristi Lee
4.7 • 5K Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2022
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
[Part 2 of 2] The conclusion of this case of a murder investigation that forever changed the face of the Canadian justice system.
Further reading:
Mr. Big: The Investigation into the Deaths of Karen and Krista Hart by Colleen Lewis and Jennifer Hicks
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| 0:00.0 | This is part two of a two-part series. |
| 0:04.1 | If you haven't listened to Part 1 yet, I recommend you go and do that. |
| 0:07.5 | It'll make a whole lot more sense. |
| 0:10.3 | Canadian True Crime is a completely independent production, funded mainly through advertising. |
| 0:15.0 | The podcast often has coarse language and disturbing content. |
| 0:18.1 | It's not for everyone. |
| 0:34.0 | Where we left off, an undercover officer had been at a bar with Nelson Hart, and they ended up casually discussing how far they would go for the criminal gang. |
| 0:39.2 | The undercover agent, Paul, was surprised when Nelson actually pointed to a picture of |
| 0:45.2 | Karen and Krista and said that he got rid of them. They were now in the ground. |
| 0:51.1 | Paul wasn't recording the conversation, so it wouldn't be admissible as a confession in court, |
| 0:57.6 | and the RCMP still wanted to work their way towards a meeting with Mr Big, |
| 1:02.6 | where they would get a full recorded confession in a scenario that they were in control of. |
| 1:08.5 | But this surprise disclosure of information from Nelson was assurance that they were on the |
| 1:14.2 | right track. |
| 1:15.9 | According to court documents, in preparation for this big meeting, the undercover officers |
| 1:21.3 | constantly emphasise the importance of loyalty, honesty and trust within the crime syndicate. In fact, they even staged a scene |
| 1:30.4 | where one undercover officer was reprimanded for speaking to others about business dealings, |
| 1:36.5 | and a show was made of slapping him on the face in front of Nelson. The goal was to demonstrate |
| 1:42.4 | what might happen if that trust was broken. Nelson took note. |
| 1:49.4 | Then the RCMP started laying the foundations for the climactic meeting with Mr Big. |
| 1:56.0 | During a trip to Vancouver, Nelson was told that there was a massive deal coming in the future that could |
| 2:02.1 | set him up financially, and he could personally net between $20,000 and $25,000 if he participated |
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