Hello and welcome to Just As If I'm your host, Justin Sylvester.

This week, you're in for a treat.

I love sitting here with friends and just having real conversations about real things.

And this week is no different.

Joining me is author, psychoanalysts.

I'm going to call him because he's going to analyze my ass to death.

TV personality, TV hosts, and all-around amazing guy, Karamo Brown.

I'm here. I am here. We have a lot to talk about today. We do. I'm so excited. I wasn't going to start with the money, but let's talk about the money and the mantle.

Yeah. For you guys, you don't know, mantle is a skincare company. Karamo started last March, and, you know, a bitch likes to go to Nordstrom.

And who do I see? The minute I walked in was that mantle, huge display. Congratulations.

What did you feel like to be in such, like, an iconic department store? It's mind blowing because,

you know, we've talked about this over dinner and stuff.

Like where we grew up and how we grew up, these things weren't like what we readily saw.

You know, we both have friends now in this Hollywood world where they're used to this.

Their mother or their father or their sister, their brother has had lines and has done this.

But that wasn't something that I saw in my neighborhood growing up.

And so to be able to have it now, it's mind-blowing.

I feel really great to have a business that's employing, a black-owned business that's

employing people that's doing well.

You know, we launched during the pandemic.

And I really thought like, oh, my gosh, we, this is, the company is going to tank.

And we actually thrived.

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