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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Kara Swisher

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2022

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

In which John Heilemann talks with Kara Swisher, arguably the preeminent chronicler (and frequent critic) of the companies, personalities, and culture of Silicon Valley and the technology world writ large. Heilemann and Swisher, a protean reporter and pundit whose vast array of endeavors includes hosting the New York Times podcast Sway and serving as a contributing opinion writer at the paper, discuss Spotify’s handling of the Joe Rogan controversy, how the pandemic has shifted the tech landscape, the recent stock plunge that erased more than $200 billion from the market value of Meta, and what to make of two of the most powerful — and maddening — hyper-capitalists of the age: Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. They also look back at their parallel paths covering Silicon Valley during the first Internet boom (and bubble, and bust) in the late 1990s; how Swisher's lesbian identity affected her ability to cover the Valley's notorious tech bro culture; and how her restlessness, entrepreneurial itch, and proud status as a self-described "bad employee" sets her apart from the journalistic herd. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, John Heilman here and welcome to Helen Highwater, my podcast about politics and culture

0:04.1

on the edge of Armageddon.

0:06.3

It's a determined, if dubious, committed if cuckoo for cocoa puffs, often wrong but rarely

0:12.0

in doubt exercise in elevated gas baggery that neither rain nor snow nor heat nor gloom of night,

0:19.4

nor the toxic rantings of the Nuthouse right,

0:22.3

a president attempting to invalidate a legitimate election and staged an auto coup, complete

0:26.9

with an armed insurrection at the United States Capitol, nor, more broadly and arguably

0:31.1

even more disturbingly, the capture of a decent-sized chunk of our political, social, and civic

0:36.0

spheres by a cadre of

0:37.7

incoherent, insidious, conspiracy addled, autocracy craving, authoritarian-worshipping lunatics,

0:44.2

hustlers, grifters, nihilists, and nincompoops, none of it, none of it has kept us from our

0:49.6

duly sworn duty and obligations, giving you, our listeners, a fresh episode of this podcast week

0:56.1

after week, after week, maybe not without fail because, you know, hashtag epic fail is one

1:03.6

of our many mottoes around here, but certainly without a pause. We've been doing that for more

1:09.6

than two years, haven't had a break.

1:12.1

All of which is to say that I am plum shagged out and desperately in need of some R&R.

1:21.0

And with the midterm election now comfortably in the rearview mirror in our democracy, amazingly,

1:26.8

if I will admit, a little unexpectedly,

1:29.1

still intact. It seems like a suitable time for the Hell and High Water Home Office to give itself

1:35.5

a fucking break. And so for the next few weeks, that is exactly what we are going to do.

1:41.0

And we'll see you back here on the other side of the holidays. Tanned, rested,

1:44.8

refreshed, revitalized, and raring to go. Ready to get back to cranking out more tasty content.

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