Good morning and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

I'm Charlie Sykes.

I know this is going to be a good podcast because I'm already through my fourth page of notes.

I keep making the notes of what I want to talk to our guests about and then I tear it up

because I think we're not going to get to that.

There is just so much that I want to talk with you about Cara Swisher.

Thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

Thanks for having me, Charlie.

For those of you not familiar, Cara Swisher has a new podcast on with Cara Swisher.

She is the co-host of the Pivot podcast in Editor at Large of New York Magazine, former

host of the Sway and Recode Decode podcast.

And she's described as Silicon Valley's most feared and well-liked journalist.

Well, first of all, you don't usually see those words in the scene.

Yeah.

That was just the headline.

That was just the headline.

They're just trying to make some, I don't know if I'm that well-liked or feared.

Well, maybe I'm a little feared, I suppose.

Well, okay, that's an interesting question because you are a legendary interviewer.

And I caught you down in Austin at the Texas Tribune Festival interviewing Hillary Clinton.

And afterwards you were asked about your approach to interviewing.

And you said something along the lines of that kind of the key was that you don't care

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