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Kara Swisher: Journalists must be 'tougher on everybody'

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business News, News, Tv & Film, Technology

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 22 December 2016

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Recode co-founder and Executive Editor Kara Swisher talks with Peter Kafka about why the media needs to be tougher and more skeptical in the aftermath of the 2016 election. Swisher says journalists too often behave like "stenographers," lazily relaying what people say without interrogating their ideas. She also discusses the rise of fake news on platforms like Facebook, how she worked her way up from the mailroom at the Washington Post and why she and Recode co-founder Walt Mossberg sold the site to Vox Media in 2015. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. It's powered by digital media.

0:55.2

That is a real company with a funny name. I am here with my boss. Wow. Kara Swisher. That's me. Welcome, boss. Thanks. How you doing? Good. I think this is going to be our Christmas episode. Oh, wow. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Kwanza. Quanza. whatever else you celebrate.

1:10.9

I think we're supposed to be non-inclusive anymore in the Trump era.

1:14.1

Oh, please. Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Quanza. Quanza. Whatever else you celebrate.

1:27.2

I think we're supposed to be non-inclusive anymore in the Trump era. Oh, please. I was hearing that a lot. I heard it on stage the other day. Non-inclusive. We should stop being so politically correct. Oh, fuck that. We should let Americans not feel talked down to by coastal elites. Yeah, let's talk down to them. Yeah, we're in New York.

1:27.6

It's good.

1:28.0

I am.

1:29.2

And you're based in San Francisco.

1:30.8

So this is we are coastal elites.

1:44.5

Being educated and tolerant, really, is not going to be a negative for me. And they can't. I had a relative who, you know, very typically expressed that sentiment. Like, you think they're, I'm going to use this accent because they're from the south and you think you're better than us and I said I am better than you that was this year

1:49.1

or post-election this is that revenge you know they were doing the sore winner thing which is

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