Kara Swisher Is So Much More Than the World’s ‘Musk-splainer’

Fail Better with David Duchovny

Grace Cohen-Chen

Society & Culture

4.6 • 534 Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

As someone who knows tech giants like Elon Musk more deeply than most reporters, Kara Swisher doesn’t have a ton of patience for them. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have empathy. Reflecting at this pivotal moment, she’s stripping away the facades of these powerful men to reveal their true characters (typically, cringeworthy pretenders). She and I share an energetic back-and-forth about what makes these disruptive innovators tick, what worries her about that, and what, despite it all, still manages to make her feel hopeful. Follow me on Instagram at @davidduchovny. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our shows and get bonus content. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	It's morning in New York.
0:02.8	Oh, God.
0:06.2	Hey, everybody.
0:07.3	I'm Mandy Patinkin.
0:08.7	And I'm Catherine Grady.
0:09.8	And we have a new podcast.
0:11.7	It's called Don't Listen to Us.
0:14.1	Many of you've asked for our advice.
0:16.1	Tell me, what is wrong with you people?
0:19.2	Don't listen to us.
0:20.3	Our Take It or Leave a Adv Device show every Wednesday, out now.
0:24.7	A Lemonada Media Original.
0:36.3	I'm David Dukovny, and this is Fail Better, a show where failure, not success, shapes who we are.
0:43.4	Kara Swisher has spent the last three decades covering the tech industry and making a name for herself as one of the most influential and feared journalists,
0:51.2	her reporting is direct and unapologetic. She's the author of Byrnebook, a tech
0:56.1	love story and host of the popular podcasts Pivot and On with Kara Swisher. She's worked for top
1:02.6	media outlets throughout her career, and she's changed careers many times, and her
1:05.9	resilience is something we're interested here and fail better. She's equally recognized
1:10.3	for going off on her own,
1:11.6	launching successful independent projects. We talk about that willingness to fail fast and where it comes
1:16.8	from. Kara is regularly seen as the expert of Silicon Valley, and she's a well-known critic of
1:22.3	tech giants like Elon Musk. Like I said, she's direct and tough. And my goal in this conversation was to get to
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