The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode.

Hey everybody, welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do exceptional work for the glory of God of the good

of others. Every week I host a conversation with a Christian who's pursuing world-class mastery of their vocation. We talk about their path to mastery, their daily habits, and how their faith influences their work.

I'm super excited about this week's guest. Her name is Kara Holden and you may know her work. She's the writer of Clouds.

The second original movie from Disney Plus.

Second, only behind. Wait for it, my beloved Hamilton.

Kara has been listening to the call to Mastery for a while.

She reached out to see if we'd be interested in having her on.

And I was like, are you kidding me?

Of course we want you on the show.

She's an exceptional writer.

Before selling this movie to Disney Plus, Kara wrote or acted on Gilmore Girls, by the Bell soul surfer clueless.

Yeah, fans of the 90s, you're gonna be a big fan of Kara's IMDb page.

So Kara and I recently said down, we talked about why Bob Eiger was personally so adamant

about distributing this movie, Clouds.

We talked about the significance of Jesus as quote, the God tells stories and we talked about why you should

always take a glass of water if it's offered to you in an interview really

practical advice here for all of you looking for jobs right now.

I think you're really going to love this episode with my friend, Carol Holden. Carol Holden.

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