All right guys now it's time for a conversation that so many of you have been waiting for

Candice plus yay I guess it kind of starts with a time machine I got to take you guys in a time machine back to

October 3rd 2022 a day that will live in infamy, me and Yay,

premiering shirts at his fashion show, which read White Lives Matter. Definitely a moment I will never forget we broke the

internet there's no other way to say it and people just couldn't believe how

could a black person say white white lives matter, we could only say black lives matter.

And it's just interesting to see how the media sort of paints a narrative and there's absolutely no

truth to it. I mean, really happened is Gaye called me and he asked me to simply

be at his show. Never asked me about wearing any shirts when I was there. We were

backstage and he sort of held up the shirt and he was really in the creative process. There were tons of models running around and he just said, I need you to wear this and I said, sure, because I knew instantly what he was trying to do and what he meant.

Shortly thereafter though everything changed and obviously aside from people being

angry at us wearing the shirts. Then it shifted into this conversation

about Yay and his anti-Semitism.

And I can say definitively that it was the toughest moment in my entire career. I had never felt more pressure

externally from the media and from friends for me to condemn Yay.

I didn't take the bait.

I didn't take the bait because, as I have said many times,

Yay had opened up to me about some things

that were happening in his life and you're

going to hear in this conversation what those things were and you can understand

how someone would feel if they were subjected to the things that YA was

subjected to. I of course wanted the world to hear it back then. I had invited YA to come on my podcast at the time and he was slated to come on but the evening before I found out that that was not going to be a possibility.

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