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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

KANSAS MOMS' BODIES STUFFED IN ICE CHEST, BURIED IN COW PASTURE, BLOODY CLOTHES, TASER, DUCT TAPE

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

3.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Newly filed court documents reveal what investigators did to find the bodies of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley after they go missing en route to Butler's son's birthday party.

OSBI, the FBI, and the Texas County Sheriff’s Department follow cell phone pings to find a horrific scene, a 10-foot-deep hole, eight and a half miles from Butler's abandoned car, in a pasture on farmland leased by Tad Cullum.

Documents reveal investigators uncover a chest freezer, at the bottom of the hole. Once the freezer is open the search for Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley ends. Their bodies are inside the freezer along with personal items that do not belong to either of them.

Among the items are the handle of a saw, a taser, and bloody clothes including two pairs of Wrangler Blue Jeans, a black belt, and two sweatshirts. Other items found at the burial site include duct tape with possible blood, a taser/flashlight, electrical cording and tape, two ratchet straps, and a black K-Bar knife in sheath, with possible blood on it.

Inside Cora and Cole Twombly's truck, cops find a Taurus 380 handgun with a full magazine of hollow point ammunition and a live round in the chamber, stun guns, cat litter used for liquid absorption of trace evidence, biological/DNA evidence, digital photos, special scans, and all other evidence of the crime of murder.

We also learn from the new documents that Paul Grice was seen with bandages on his hand in the days after the moms' disappearance and asking incriminating questions after their bodies were recovered. Grice asked a friend how long the state lab would take to process DNA evidence and how long DNA would last in the dirt.

Grice says he is concerned about his DNA being in the hole that Butler and Kelley were found in because he had been to the Twombly residence. Grice also asks if he knows how to get a "guy and his family" into Mexico.

Joining Nancy Grace Today:

  • Alan Bennett – Former Assistant District Attorney; Partner at Gunter, Bennett, and Anthes
  • Dr. Angela Arnold – Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA. Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women, Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University, Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital
  • Chris McDonough – Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective, Host of YouTube channel: “The Interview Room”
  • Dr. Kendall Crowns – Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth) and Lecturer: University of Texas Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School
  • Lauren Conlin – Investigative Journalist, Host of The Outlier Podcast, and also Host of “Corruption: What Happened to Grant Solomon; X- @Conlin_Lauren/ Instagram- @LaurenEmilyConlin/YouTube- @LaurenConlin4

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0:00.0

Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

0:05.0

Breaking.

0:06.0

Breaking news tonight just revealed

0:10.0

the horrific details surrounding the disappearance of two Kansas moms.

0:14.8

Tonight, the unthinkable.

0:17.8

Were the two moms' bodies stuffed in an ice chest and buried 15 feet below the surface of a remote cow pasture, were they

0:28.9

buried alive, along with bloody clothes, a taser, a duct tape.

0:35.0

Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace.

0:36.6

This is crime stories.

0:38.0

Thank you for being with us.

0:39.8

New details emerge on brutally murdered Kansas moms.

0:44.0

Court docs reveal Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly's bodies were stuffed in a buried

0:49.6

freezer.

0:50.9

Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelly's vehicle found abandoned just miles from their

0:55.9

destination surrounded by pools of blood. What really happened to these two Kansas moms?

1:04.0

Yes, we can figure out they were carjacked and route to a kid's birthday party,

1:08.0

but how did they end up, dead or alive, stuffed into an ice chest 10 to 15 feet below the surface in a remote

1:18.3

cow pasture. Well, I'm learning a lot from these.

1:23.2

Just discovered court documents.

1:26.9

And guess what?

1:28.1

The defense wanted them sealed.

1:32.0

And they stated on the record because they don't want the Nancy Grace show to find out about them.

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