Hello friends it's Tim Miller at the next level podcast here with my best friend

actually Sarah Longwell we've been friends for a long time what's happening girl

I'm I'm good you know I'm having a day over here but it's it's fine just my

Pennsylvania heart it's a little hurt but I'm working through it so we can talk about that

and see how you know we're feeling we're going to work through that together.

I'm going to work friends a long time.

Like almost 20 years. Do you think people know this about us?

Sometimes I think people who are new, they're like,

oh, Sarah and JVL are best friends.

JVL and I met like four years ago.

Tim and I, you know I was just talking about this

sorry to like do this whole thing but I was telling someone like about how we

used to have to share a hotel room and I was trying to explain to them like why the people we were working with were so cheap

that they were sort of like either only one of you can come or you can both come but you have to

share a room and we chose share a room. We did. We loved each

other that much and many of the people that we were working with thought we were

a straight couple and we're very confused about why I was the one giving fashion advice in the media training session. But anyway, that's for another day. I want the vibe of this. JBL is on vacation and he deserves a vacation. and so we're doing a little secret

podcast vibe for people who don't know on Fridays J. B. L. and Sarah do a secret

podcast. There's no real host just kind of open dialogue they talk about things that you know maybe they're still working through half-formed thoughts and ideas and that's for Bullert Plus members only so if you're interested in this if you're enjoying this show and you know want more casual Tim, casual Sarah and you know go to the

Bullwork.com slash free trial and you can join up try it for a month to see what you think.

All right, Sarah. I want to start we should do I just want both of us I think you may be slightly more than me but

directionally both of us wanted Shapiro and thought he was a better pick politically

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